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THE POST TRIBULATION RAPTURE & THE GREAT DAY OF GOD'S WRATH

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  1. yesterday, today and forever, we praise you. We thank you, Lord, God, that we can come together and worship, now that we can worship you in spirit and in truth. Right now, we can worship you freely and in peace, and we take our blessings for granted many times. I'll ask you, Lord, to anoint me and to help me speak your word today. Holy Spirit, speak as we study the word. We don't just assume what's in it, but, Lord, we're going to study and see what's in it. We thank you for that. We ask you to touch those here today at Fire and Grace Church, touch those watching and listening. We pray it in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. You may be seated this morning. We welcome everyone to Fire and Grace Church this morning. We are now in part five of this end-time Bible prophecy series. Of course, through several of the messages when I spoke about the eclipse and the great sign even last week, I've mentioned a few times about the rapture and what I believe about the rapture, what I believe that the Scriptures teach about the rapture. In fact, I think on the eclipse day, I went through, in the second part of that message, I went through some of the key reasons why I believe the Bible does not teach a pre-tribulation rapture of the church. Now, I want to make this clear at the outset because I've already had somebody comment on Facebook about the term that we use called the rapture. Now, that term is not a biblical term. It's not in the Bible. It's made up by men. The reason I use it in the title of the message or when I talk about this subject is because that's what most people understand. That's what most people have heard taught when you teach about the resurrection of the righteous dead and then we which are alive and remain at the coming of the Lord Jesus, most people have heard that called the rapture. So sometimes I have to use terms I don't even like so that people will understand what I'm talking about, okay? But let's just say this, that the term rapture really should be called the first resurrection is what the Bible calls it. There are two resurrections in the last days, two and only two mass resurrections, all right? And everybody needs to understand this and they are separated by 1,000 years. The first resurrection is of the righteous. That means true believers in Jesus, true believers in Jesus that have truly been born again, that have made Jesus Lord of their lives, that have repented of sin, that are living for Him. Now the Bible says in 1st Thessalonians 4 and we're going to run through some of these very quick but we're going to turn

  2. to a lot of scriptures this morning. 1st Thessalonians 4 verses 13 through 18. Matter of fact, go ahead we'll go ahead and start you can put that up and just we'll come back to the second slide in just a second but let's let's get an understanding about this because of course whenever I mentioned the rapture I get a lot of comments, YouTube comments, emails, it really starts stirring because you know what hey folks this is an emotional for some people this is an emotional issue because they've been taught to believe that they're going to escape all the problems of the last days and so it's very emotional and I'm going to say especially for some especially for some ladies, for you mommies out there you you want to think and believe that you know we're going to get out of here before anything gets really rough and I understand where you're coming from I have children, grown children, smaller children. I would love to tell you that oh we're gonna we're gonna get out of here we're not going to suffer any kind of persecution tribulation or difficulty or we're not going to actually see aspects of the wrath of God hit the earth but I would be a false prophet and a false teacher if I told you that. I thought about this as we were getting ready as he's getting that it's first Thessalonians 4 huh 13 through 18 is what we're going to look at first but I was thinking about Jeremiah the days of Jeremiah and I thought about you know Jeremiah started his ministry God called him when he was a teenager and I remember that so well because that's Jeremiah chapter 1 is what God used when he called me to the ministry when I was 19 years old so I was a teenager as well and I remember the Lord speaking to me and just coming in the room and in great power I felt his presence overwhelm me I was in tears and he told me he said at 19 years old he said son I've ordained you to be a prophet to the nations and I said Lord I'm I don't even understand what that means I'm too young I can't I can't do I I couldn't even fathom what he was saying to me and neither could Jeremiah but over the years as God has taught me and as I've learned things and as the ministry is unfolded over time I often look back at Jeremiah's life and I see a lot of parallels in my own life because I see that how so many people Jeremiah began prophesying as a teenager about the judgment of God that was coming upon Israel and they didn't want to hear it they didn't want to hear it when he started talking about it they didn't want to hear it in the middle of his years of ministry talking about it and they especially didn't want to hear about it right before it was about to

  3. happen they didn't want to hear it and there were even prophets who would get up as Jeremiah would be prophesying that Nebuchadnezzar is coming he's gonna wipe this place out many of you are going to be killed many of you are going to be taken captive they didn't want to hear it and prophets would stand up and say in the name of the Lord the name of Yahweh oh no Nebuchadnezzar is not going to come in here and do this you're gonna have peace and prosperity God's gonna deliver you from Nebuchadnezzar and Jeremiah would say you know the false prophets promise you peace peace when there is no peace I'm not going to be one of those as a pastor today in this area is preaching a pre-tribulation rapture message today he's gonna give an account for giving false security and telling people they're gonna have peace when they're about to have great tribulation Americans are some of the most deceived and some of the most spoiled people in the world we need to understand tribulation has been coming in persecution and terrible things don't you know that as somebody told me the other day don't go to China and start preaching a pre-tribulation rapture they will run you out of the country the Christians with they say you don't have any idea what we've lived through since 1949 don't come here preaching that nonsense but let's go through this this morning because when you start talking about this when you start dashing people's brainwashing of indoctrination of many years you know there's that discomfort that comes it's called that cognitive dissonance that comes into people's hearts and they go you know I just I can't hear this but let's look at it because the Bible does say that we are going to see at the coming of Jesus a mass resurrection of the righteous dead those in Christ those born again those washed in the blood those who have truly repented and made Jesus Lord of their lives this is what he says this is this is where we first kind of see this put forth in the New Testament after Jesus in the Gospels this is Paul he says but I would not have you to be ignorant brethren concerning them which are asleep that you sorrow not even as others which have no hope when you some of those that are dead for if we believe that means to rely on trusty and clean to true saving faith in Jesus Christ that he died and rose again even so them which also sleep are dead in Jesus will God bring with him for this we say unto you by the word of the Lord that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of

  4. the Lord shall not prevent or precede them which are asleep for the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first and then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord wherefore comfort one another with these words now as I said a few weeks ago and we'll go ahead and jump to second Thessalonians chapter 2 just to lay the foundation here we were taught by traditional churches Baptist churches Assembly of God churches we were taught by TV preachers for years and years and years Oh better be ready Jesus could come at any moment Bible never taught that that has been a false teaching and anybody that's ever spewed it out of their mouths didn't know what they were talking about because second Thessalonians Paul had to clear it up for them because he he introduced this resurrection of the of the dead in Christ and we which are alive at the coming of the Lord he introduced this concept to them of course Jesus taught it and right before in the Olivet Discourse Matthew 24 but here Paul's teaching it again but all of a sudden there was confusion so in second Thessalonians he had to address the confusion and what was the confusion over the confusion was some were saying oh the coming of Christ has already happened or you missed it you missed the resurrection you missed the rapture I mean people were talking about all this in Paul so he he's gonna clear it up for you he's gonna say you know what that day is not coming until some things happen right so here's what he said and this is second Thessalonians chapter 2 verse 1 now we beseech you brethren by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and by our gathering together unto him now hold on a second hold on say everybody pay attention let's pay attention to the wording now we beseech you brethren by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and by our gathering together unto him now what is that the gathering together of the saints unto Jesus at his second coming is what is popularly called the rapture is true it should be biblical called the first resurrection all right he says don't be soon shaken in mind or be troubled neither by spirit and notice a small s he's talking about evil spirits or by word

  5. somebody talking nor by letter as from us as the day of Christ is at hand what is he saying don't let anybody trouble you telling you that that day is near right now why didn't some out preachers in these days does it Paul said hey hey you're getting all worked up about the second not coming not near don't get worked up the day of Christ he's saying the day of Christ is at hand don't let anybody tell you the day of Christ is near so for all those preterist out there who believe that it all happened at the end of the first century or the 70 AD Paul will say no no it's not near and then he says this let no man deceive you by any means so he says anybody comes along saying guess what Jesus could come at any moment there's nothing that has to be fulfilled for Jesus to come he's deceiving you let no man deceive you by any means for that day I love the Word of God because the Word of God is so clear the coming of the Lord Jesus and our gathering to him is one day that day shall not come except there come a falling away first and that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition and then he goes on and says who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped so that he has God sitteth in the temple of God showing himself that he is God so he tells us the man of sin the Antichrist the man of lawlessness will have to come into a temple of God and declare himself to be God and to be authority now according to end-time Bible prophecy the book of Daniel the book of Revelation we know when that happens Jesus even talked about it in Matthew 24 he said when you see the abomination of desolation spoken on by Daniel the prophet stand in the holy place he's all they're all referring to Revelation 13 they're all referring to this time when there will be some kind of rebuilt temple I know some people don't believe that but I don't care there's going to be some kind of rebuilt temple on the temple Mount it may be a tent it may be a temporary structure it may just be a little place of prayer that the Jews are allowed to have in the coming peace agreement that's going to happen and it may just be and listen Jordanian Muslim clerics are talking about and the Jordanians control the temple Mount are talking about letting the Jews have a place of prayer little house of prayer on the temple now Muslim clerics it's going to happen Bible prophecy is going to happen right you don't have this huge area I've been up there I've walked all around up there there's plenty of room for a little place of prayer they don't even have to have a big elaborate temple so people are getting all worked up about that but folks according to

  6. Scripture according to the book of Daniel chapter 9 according to Revelation 13 according to these things we get a we get a time period of when the Antichrist is going to do these things even Matthew 24 where he kind of happens in the middle of the chapter he's letting you know that this is going to happen in the middle this is when the Antichrist breaks the covenant with Israel in the middle and this is when he blasphemes the tabernacle and this is when he declares himself to be God and this is when he institutes the mark of the beast which we're going to talk about a few weeks all right so we know it's about the middle so what I'm getting at here is Paul said don't let anybody deceive you the day of the Lord the coming of Jesus Christ and our gathering together unto him will not happen until there is a great apostasy of falling away that's evident a falling away from truth and the man of sin is fully revealed in the temple all right is that clear is everybody got that okay so the Bible never taught Jesus could come at any moment never taught now we're gonna go back to Matthew 24 because last week I talked about the birth pains that I believe we are in the birth pains of the beginning of the Great Tribulation I don't know I don't know when the seven the final seven years is going to start I don't have a date I'm not predicting anything we do have the great sign in about a week that's going to happen but again that's just a sign in the heavens it doesn't give us a specific date could it start on that day yes could it not I don't know it again the tribulation y'all could start with an uneventful day that nothing happens don't you understand that it's it's not about something happening on the day the Great Tribulation starts where it not happening it's just we may just walk right into it just like any other day probably the way it's gonna be what I think all right but Matthew 24 I want to show you this because we're gonna go through this thoroughly now of course I called today the post tribulation rapture and the great day of the Lord's wrath Kevin go ahead and put up slide two if you can and then we'll you can keep up with this the scriptures there but just know that we'll we'll go to Matthew 24 but for those of you and I hope to put this up if you can make sure it's full-screen for the viewers out there but I can kind of walk some of you through now I want to say this because I've never really taught this here I don't believe but I want you to understand Jesus in Matthew 24 or

  7. what's known as the Olivet Discourse all right when he was on the Mount of Olives and the disciples asking what will be the sign of your coming the signs of your coming the end of the world or the end of the age he says there he begins to give an outline now I've pointed this out many times we know it is an outline that is chronological that is sequential because Jesus says here these things are going to start your these are the beginning of sorrows these are the birth pains and then he uses the word then this is going to happen then this is going to happen then this is going to happen okay to the point you get to verse 29 and he says immediately after the tribulation of those days so anybody with any kind of logical sins right can look at that and go Jesus is giving us a chronological sequential outline of the last days now what I want to show you this morning is that Matthew 24 from beginning from well from verse 3 to verse 31 is mirrored by Revelation 6 or the seals I'm gonna show you how they mirror each other it's the same story but before I show you that all right I want you to understand how the seals and the trumpets and the vials work according to Scripture not according to traditional teaching but according to Scripture not according to the nominations all right now the Bible never says when the seals would begin to be opened I do believe that they were opened very early in the time of the early church we do know where the seals finish okay the seals finish at the second coming of Jesus Christ I'm gonna prove that now the traditional teaching as I've said this many times to you guys here at our church ought to know this the traditional teaching says you're gonna have the seven seals opened that's gonna take you to a time period then you're gonna have the seven trumpets and then you're gonna have the seven vials that is impossible to have it that way why is it impossible because the sixth seal is where the Sun goes dark the moon does not give its light the stars fall from heaven and the wrath of the Lamb comes and the nations mourn in the mighty men and the rich men begin to hide themselves from the coming of Jesus they see him coming and say hide us from the great day of his wrath so how could we be at the second coming of Jesus at the sixth seal and still have seven trumpets and set and and the seven vials when the first vial is poured out right on people who took the mark of the beast pretty much right after the midpoint of the when the tribulation in the tribulation so we'll cover that in a second so what I'm getting at here is I've shared this

  8. many times the seals are one story that lead us up to Armageddon the second coming of Jesus Christ the seven trumpets are another story and these stories overlap again it doesn't the Bible doesn't tell us specifically when these would start we we pretty much know now and I don't have time to get into it today but I believe five of the seven trumpets have blown already but they end the sixth and seventh trumpet ends with Armageddon and the second coming of Jesus the last trumpet will you deal with that in a second the seven vials they're the only ones we know for sure when they are because it says the first vial of wrath is sores come up upon the people who took the mark of the beast and people don't take the mark of the beast according to Revelation 13 until the Antichrist has 42 months to continue and 42 months is three and a half years so you're halfway through so we know that this has to start around halfway through but yet the sixth and seventh vial brings on Armageddon and the second coming of Jesus so I hope everybody understands seven seals tell one story like one gospel but ends at the same time but didn't start at the same time this seven trumpets tell another story but they end at the same spot I'm gonna prove this in a second and the seven vials are the shorter story but they tell one story of God's judgment and they end here does everybody see that this is the only way to understand the book of Revelation if you don't get this it's gonna be a jumbled up mess to you if you take the traditional teaching seven seals then seven trumpets then seven vials you don't have them where they overlap one another it will not make sense can't do it all right now let's look we're gonna flip back and forth everybody I want you to flip with your Bibles Kevin's gonna do his best to keep up with me but those of you in here those watching if you have your Bible you need to keep up I want to show you how this mirrors because what we're talking about today is the post tribulation rapture and the great day of God's wrath because a lot of people all you know here's what I was here how many of you ever heard this oh I know it's a preacher of rapture pastor Dean because we're not appointed to wrath I hear I if I had a dollar for every time I heard that all right I understand we're not appointed to wrath but you can't make the assumption based on your own understanding that that means we're out of here okay I tell those same people all the time when do we have in

  9. scripture another time God poured out very specific plagues to judge the most powerful nation on the face of the earth his people were in that nation three million did those three million Israelites leave Egypt before God's wrath or after God's wrath it's simple deduction is simple Bible we compare you know people talk about you got to have discernment well discerning people compare spiritual things with spiritual discerning people compare Bible with Bible not assumptions with assumptions most of the things that we believe a lot of the things we believed in church are just speculation and assumptions built upon preconceived beliefs that come from very bad teaching and bad hermeneutics all right so let's look at Matthew 24 everybody knows Matthew 24 now I'm gonna run through them quick Matthew 24 verses 3 we're gonna run through this fast because I want to show you how they how Matthew 24 revelations 6 and 7 this are mirrored they're basically telling you the same story they're giving you the same sequence of events the same chronological order so Jesus starts out what will be the sign of your coming of the end of the age verse 3 right when will these things be what shall be the sign of thy coming at the end of the world Jesus says first thing he says is take heed that no man deceive you for many shall come in my name saying I am Christ and shall deceive many right well how do we see that mirrored in the seals the first seal go to Revelation 6 1 the first seal is the white horse with the rider who has a bow and a crown and he goes forth conquering and to conquer I've shared with you that these first four seals are evil spirits sent forth into the earth to bring about deception the deception of the first horse the white horse the rider on the horse is to conquer the world and I believe they are represented by the Roman Catholic Church the Jesuits the United Nations the trilateral Commission the Council on foreign relations all these different groups the Club of Rome all these different groups that want to deceive the world that we need to create a world government we need to create world peace and it's deception and that's where the false Christ the false Messiah the Antichrist is going to come and take control of that and so he's he's basically God's letting us know the first thing you're going to deal with is this spirit that wants to conquer the world this evil spirit

  10. through deception through claiming peace through saying we need to unite the world so you see that mirrored so what's the second thing Jesus said we went through this last week the birth pain he said you will hear of what wars and rumors of wars well if you're in Revelation 6 what do you see the second horse the red horse he is what he's known as the horse the red horse of war why because he has a great sword and he takes peace from the earth and I believe this is the spirit represented by communism naziism fascism and this spirit this red spirit is the spirit that takes peace from the earth see the red horse and there went out another red horse another horse it was red and power was given unto him that sat there on to take peace from the earth and that they should kill one another and there was given him a great sword that's war do you see how it's mirroring each other what's the next thing Jesus said he said there will be famine and what pestilence right that's Matthew 24 what's it say in Revelation here the black horse and we need open the third seal I heard the third be said come and see and I beheld and I lo a black horse and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand he said I heard a voice in the midst of the four B say a measure of wheat for a penny and three measures of barley for a penny or a denier I and see that thou hurt not the oil in the wine so right here he's telling you that the the black horse is going to cause economic depression food shortage inflation which will cause what famine do you see that Jesus said pestilence and famine the black horse shortage food shortage food expensive okay right after that if you look at Matthew 24 in verse 8 where he says all these are the beginning of sorrows look at verse 9 what does he say there in verse 9 he says then they shall deliver you up to be afflicted and shall kill you you should be hated of all nations for my namesake that is martyrdom that is a specific in time martyrdom he's talking about well let's go back to Revelation 6 the fifth seal what happens at the fifth seal Revelation 6 let Kevin catch up I told him I'm gonna go quick and when he had opened the fifth seal I saw under the altar the souls of them that had been slain that were slain for the word of God and for their testimony which they held and they cried with a loud voice saying how long oh Lord holy and true does thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell

  11. on the earth now hold on a second let me think of it think about this we read over words and we don't pay attention these people that had just been killed as the Bible says their blood cries out to from the ground as the blood of Abel cried out and he says here how long Lord do you not avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth meaning the people that killed them are still alive on the earth meaning these were a recent wave of martyrs who are saying how long Lord before you judge those wicked evil people who killed us and then what does he tell him he says white robes were given unto every one of them and it was said unto them that they should rest yet for a little season until their fellow servants also and their brethren that should be killed as they were should be fulfilled now that's the fifth seal notice how it coincides with Matthew 24 nine but let me tell you how it coincides also with the the rider on the the green horse so you know what I believe this is this end time martyrdom what did we see what did we see in the world in 2014 and 15 we saw the rise really 2013 we saw the rise of Isis and we saw the rise of this Islamic entity that began to kill behead torture martyr hang crucify Christians throughout the Middle East Syria Iraq to the point they said they they have almost extinguished Christianity completely in those regions I believe these are the martyrs who were saying when are you going to judge these wicked people and the Lord said wait there's there's another wave of martyrdom coming see the fourth horse in Revelation the force seal happens to be right but right before the fifth seals open the fourth seal is the green horse and green is the sacred color of Islam and it says it has power over one quarter of the earth and Islam is one quarter of the population of the world right now so that spirit has control over one quarter of the earth these this is why I don't know I don't say anybody doubts the Bible because it is so specific and it foretold Islam 500 years before it ever came into existence and it foretold not only its sacred color but it foretold how many people it would have authority over in the end and that it would be partly says

  12. death and hell is the rider of the green horse death is the rider I had I had an Iraqi curd who put in my cable a few years ago who was an interpreter for our forces in Iraq and this is what this Iraqi curd told me about Muslims Arab Muslims in Iraq he said they don't love anything except death he said they don't love their own children they don't love their own families they love death he said Saddam Hussein killed my whole family this is it I mean you want to talk about an interesting conversation with a cable guy I already knew it I've been in the Middle East I knew it but do you see how they're marrying one another now let's look at the sixth seal what is the sixth seal in Revelation and we're just gonna read from the sixth seal all the way down to the end all right here's the sixth seal I'm gonna show you we're gonna go back to Matthew 24 right after this because the sixth seal so we've saw we saw the first seals the white horse going forth to conquer deception going to conquer the earth lie through peace create everything world government then we saw the red horse that's gonna bring war and take peace from the earth then we saw the black horses after that's gonna be economic destruction and famine and then we see what we see the green horse which is Islam turn loose the fifth seal we see is this the martyrs right the sixth seal in the book of Revelation is the second coming of Jesus or what happens just moments prior to it because here's what it says and I beheld and we need open the sixth seal and lo there was a great earthquake and the Sun became blackest sackcloth of hair and the moon became his blood and the stars of heaven fell into the earth even as a fig tree cast as her untimely figs when she is shaking of a mighty wind and the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together in every mountain and every island moved out of their places remember this phrase right here and every mountain and every island were moved out of their places and then he says in the kings of the earth and the great men and the rich men and the chief captains and the mighty men and every bond man and every free man hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains that's why they didn't spin it you know where all your money's been gone your tax money why we're trillions of dollars in debt they've been building underground basis to save themselves they're gonna run to these underground basis Bible foretold this and then they said why why do they run it it says and they said to the

  13. mountains and rocks following us and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb now these are the Antichrist wicked men of the world hide us from the face and meaning when the sky is peeled back and they see him folks that's the second coming now I'm going to show you that this is the event the Sun going dark and the moon going dark and the stars falling and the people saying hide us from the wrath of the Lamb that's doesn't happen multiple times that happens one time at the second coming of Jesus let's go back to Matthew 24 in Matthew 24 he's gone through this whole list I'm gonna I'm gonna back up and go through some of it a minute but I want you to see verse 29 let's go to verse 29 he's not mentioned we've written the whole chapter of Matthew 24 Jesus has yet to mention the rapture or the resurrection the catching away of the saints the gathering of his elect he's he's not mentioned it not one time through the whole chapter and he gets to verse 29 and this is Jesus folks if you won't accept what Jesus says you have a problem Jesus said immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the Sun be darkened the moon shall not give her light and the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of heaven shall be shaken and then right after this shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven meaning they're gonna see him in heaven in the sky it's gonna be peeled back everybody's gonna see there's no secret coming of Jesus there's no secret snatching or catching away every eye will see him it says the sign that appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven height is from the face of the wrath of the lamb the one that sits on the throne and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn why why are the tribes of earth gonna mourn they just see him they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory still no rapture and then what do we see and he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds from one end of heaven to the other now this is exactly what we see the sixth seal the Sun goes dark the moon does not give its light the stars fall heaven is peeled back the wicked men of the earth see Jesus the rapture happens at the second coming of Christ there's not

  14. a second coming that secret and mysterious and we're snatched away and planes crashing and all that left behind nonsense that is not the way it goes down if listen if they're making a movie about it and putting Nicolas Cage in it it ain't from God but let's go back to Revelation I go to Revelation 7 because what follows in the book of Revelation the sixth seal what is the sixth what is the sixth seal everybody Sun goes dark moon doesn't give its light stars fall heavens open great earthquake every island every mountains moved that's the sixth seal right everybody agree that's what it said Revelation 6 let's go into Revelation 7 because we got the seventh seal everybody say seventh seal all right so let me turn now Revelation 7 now I'm not going to get into the 144,000 everybody keeps asking me to teach them 144,000 you know why I won't do it because I don't know what they're for and I don't know what they're gonna do and anybody that says they do speculate oh those are gonna be 144,000 evangelists they're gonna be here for the tribulation how do you know that the Bible doesn't say that you're just making crap up sorry I don't teach about it cuz I don't know oh you mean you can say you don't know about yeah I don't know I don't know what they are who they are what they represent what they're gonna do or what they're not gonna do you know why because the Bible doesn't tell me all we know is that they're 12,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel and that they're Jews and obviously they says they're virgins I don't know are that could they be literal virgins yeah I don't know I don't know how it's gonna be I don't know who they are and you don't either and don't send me any emails and anybody that you think you know who they are because you don't know I love to tell people people ask me questions I said I don't know and no one does because the Bible doesn't tell us when it happens guess what then we'll know there's just some things that are like that when it happens then we'll understand it we're just doing our best here that's all we can do I'm not gonna make stuff up all right but after he seals these mysterious 144,000 Jews he says this go down to verse 9 he says

  15. and after this I beheld and lo a great multitude which no man could number of all nations kindreds and people and tongues stood before the throne and before the lamb clothed with white robes and palms in their hands and cried with a loud voice saying salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne and unto the lamp and all the angels stood round about the throne and about the elders and the four beasts and before the throne and fell before the throne on their faces and worship God saying Amen blessing and glory and wisdom and Thanksgiving and honor and power and might be unto our God forever and ever Amen and one of the elders answered saying unto me what are these which are arrayed in white robes whence came that and I said unto him sir thou knowest and he said unto me these are they which came out of great tribulation and have washed their their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb therefore they are before the throne of God and serve him day and night in his temple and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them and they shall hunger no more neither thirst anymore and neither shall sunlight upon them nor any heat for the lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes so end of story of the seals what we see with the seals we see it go through this progression the sick seal sun goes dark moon does not give its light Jesus is coming and all of a sudden John says there was this great multitude in heaven of all kindreds and tongues and nation and then if that's not you know if that's confusing to some people then John was like where did these come from now here's one for you pre-trib folks he says they came out of great tribulation that means they were in it you can't get out of a room that you aren't in I don't know my brain just thinks that way Patrick tell me all the time you can't jump off a table you didn't climb up on right to me it's simple say okay you mean that we're gonna go through this whole thing then don't you yes I do unless you get martyred at some point before the end well wait a bit what about the wrath of God you're gonna tell me that God Almighty the creator of heaven and earth doesn't have it

  16. figured out who are his and who are not and who to dump wrath on and who not to come on folks it's not complicated he knows who are his now he didn't promise we would be we would go through and not have any tribulation or persecution but when God starts pouring down his special rat like the hell stones like the sores breaking out on the people with the mark of the beast notice notice the first vial of wrath you want to talk about the wrath of God the first vial sores break out boils break out on people who took the mark of the beast that wouldn't be Christians so God puts a difference between the two in the middle of the tribulation period he managed to pour his wrath on just people who took the mark and not the ones who didn't oh but see I'll get get off your high horse passionate no you guys get off your false teaching and maybe I'll get off my high horse God knows the difference one of the vials of wrath is God pouring out darkness upon the seat or this where the the beast the antichrist will have his you know his place of his dominion his his actual seat where he will have a throne in a kingdom or like a you know like like our president has the White House he's gonna have his spot I actually think I know where it is he's gonna rule from a place and it says that one of those vials around does that have anything to do with me or you no God brought darkness on Egypt guess what in Goshen where his people were there was light say folks when he when he when he killed the cattle when God brought the plague and killed the cattle the livestock of the Egyptians guess what Israelites that cattle was fine and when the final plague of death the death angel comes in those who obeyed and put the blood of the lamb on the doorpost who were in obedience and in faith that death angel moved past their house and found the Egyptian who didn't believe and didn't obey folks do you

  17. even believe Psalm 91 he says a thousand will fall at your side and ten thousand at your right hand but it won't come near you God will not bring his wrath upon you if you're really his and you really love him and you really walk with him he will not bring his wrath he doesn't say you won't suffer some of the devil's wrath he says he won't bring his wrath upon you now let's look at the trumpets real quick I'm not gonna go through all this I've got a video that's nearly two hours about the trumpets I believe Trump at one was World War two I mean World War one I believe trumpet number two was World War two I believe trumpet number three was Chernobyl I believe trumpet number four was the Sun going dark and being blocked out by the oil fields burning in the Middle East in the in the Gulf War I believe number five was the 2008 economic crisis that lasted for five months I believe that was caused by demonic locusts out of the pit those weren't real locusts they're demonic spirits that were loosed from the abyss I don't have time to go through all that the sixth trumpet is the next one to be blown when we won't be blown I don't know but the sixth trumpet is a war that kills one-third of mankind with fire that's what's next in the trumpets but I want to show you something about the trumpets the seventh trumpet and you can go to Revelation chapter 10 the seventh trumpet or the last trumpet that sounds familiar it ought to Revelation 10 let's look at this remember the remember the timeline I showed you a minute ago the sixth seal the seventh seal is just silence but right after that sixth seal when the Sun goes dark and the moon does not give its light and the stars fall and the heavens peeled back the solid dome skies when that happens and Jesus is sitting there they see him the next thing in Revelation we see was what the great multitude in heaven where did these come from they came out of the great tribulation we got the similar situation and let's look at it so you go through the trumpets and I believe all five had been blown I can prove it you can believe it or not I don't care I can prove it but you get to the sixth trumpet and you get to the seventh trumpet now look notice what he says this is Revelation 10 the seventh trumpet

  18. or the last trumpet in Revelation 10 verse 7 are you with me actually we're gonna read actually let's just read from verse 1 I'm sorry Kevin we can back up and read from verse 1 all right Revelation 10 verse 1 because I want you to see because because there's part of this seventh this seventh trumpet angel he's in Revelation 10 and he's in Revelation 11 all right let's read about him because this last trumpet is important and he says here in verse 1 I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven clothed with a cloud and a rainbow was upon his head and his face was as it were the Sun and his feet as pillars of fire and he had in his hand a little book open and he set his right foot upon the sea and his left foot upon the earth and cried with a loud voice as when a lion roar and when he had cried seven thunders uttered their voices and when the seven thunders had uttered their voices I was about to write and I heard a voice from the heaven saying to me seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered and write them not you know the other day I get these questions some people ask me what are the seven thunders I don't know because guess what they were sealed up and John wasn't allowed to tell us I don't know so anybody tells you what the seven thunders are they're making up crap again okay I don't know you don't know no one knows just a side note all right on that now let's keep going verse 5 and the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven and swear by him that liveth forever and ever who created heaven and the things that therein are and the earth and the things that therein are and the sea and the things which are therein that now listen what he says here this this angel says that there should be time no longer now try to figure that one out there shall be time no longer what does that mean I know I don't know but I think that means we're at the end here times up and then he says this but in the days of the voice of the seven angel the seventh angel when he shall begin to sound everybody read this with me the mystery of God come on can I hear you the mystery of God should be finished whoa when the seventh angel sounds his trumpet times up the mystery of God is finished meaning there's nothing more to be revealed there's nothing more to happen that's it he says the mystery of God is finished as he had declared to his servants the prophets does everybody see that now go to Revelation 11 are you in Revelation 11 I hear we're gonna read

  19. from from verse 15 Revelation 11 verse 15 and the seventh angel sounded and there were great voices in heaven saying the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ and he shall reign forever and ever the seventh trumpet the last trumpet the mystery of God's finished everything he spoke to the prophets finished no more hidden nothing and then he says the seventh angel sounds and he says oh the kingdoms of this world had become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ let's go to verse 16 and the four and twenty elders which set before God on their seats fell upon their faces and worshiped God let's keep going saying good as wherever saying that we give thanks Oh Lord God Almighty which art and was an art to come because thou has taken to thee thy great power and has reigned and the nations were angry and what happened to the seventh trumpet and I wrath is come and everybody read this with me and the time of the dead what what did what time of the dead the rapture of the resurrection the first resurrection I'll show you that he said in the nations were angry and I wrath has come and the time of the dead that they should be judged that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets and to the saints and to them that fear thy name small and great and shouldest destroy them that destroy the earth when does the time of the dead I believe this is talking about the righteous dead because he said to give reward unto your servants he's talking about the rapture at the seventh trumpet or the last time everybody see that and then he's going to destroy them that destroy their let me give you a little hint before we proceed the Bible says in Luke chapter 17 when Jesus was saying that when his coming is going to be like the days of a lot he says the same day everybody say this with me the same day that lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone and destroyed them all so Jesus told me the second coming he says the same day we go out is the great day it's the last day and it is the great day of God's wrath and that is the day that every island's moved every mountain the hell stones rain down God rains fire out of heaven and he destroys everyone whose names are not written in the Lamb's Book of Life it's the day all the cities of the nation's fall the great day of his wrath we are

  20. taking out the same day and then the great day of his wrath comes down upon the world it is one day and this is confirmed by Jesus four times in John 6 Jesus says to those who believe those who are the righteous those who are walking them he says I will raise him up at the last day and the Apostle Paul go to 1 Corinthians 15 51 the Apostle Paul remember the seventh angel he says guess what the mystery of God is finished the mystery is finished what mystery I love this what mysteries he talking about at the last trumpet well Paul gave a hint but a number of years before John wrote the book of Revelation he gave a little he gave a little teaser a little trailer Paul wrote here he said first Corinthians 1551 behold I show you a mystery we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed in a moment in the twinkling of an eye at the last Trump for the trumpet shall sound and the dead shall be raised incorruptible and we shall be changed for this corruption must put on incorruption and this mortal must put on immortality so Paul said I'm going to show you I'm showing you a mystery I'm revealing something what was he revealing he wasn't revealing that the righteous are going to be resurrected that was taught throughout the Bible that wasn't a mystery he was giving you a hint as to the timing of the rapture or the first resurrection he let you know something that hadn't been known before that it's going to happen at the last trumpet this is before we got the book of Revelation so about 30 years later or so give or take a few years John's on the Isle of Patmos and God gives him the vision the open vision calls him up to heaven and shows him everything that's gonna happen that's the book of Revelation and and John gives us these seven trumpets that nobody knew about before that we're gonna happen and at the last trumpet he says the mystery is finished the time of the dead has happened now to give reward to my servants everybody see that now if that were not enough we got a little bit more to do here we're gonna look at let's look at the six vials of right Revelation chapter 16 somebody say oh

  21. amen or old me which is it amen or old me watch it there don't make me call your name out alright Revelation chapter 16 now let's look at this remember I said the vials of wrath they're the third story of judgment of the final judgment where the other day I said I made a statement at one of my messages I said that seven is the number of judgment completed judgment somebody came back and go oh no it's not that's the number of perfection where do you get that from I said well there's seven seals and there's seven trumpets of judgment and there's seven vials of wrath I just kind of assumed it had something to do with judgment the judgment of God being finished he's the one that picked seven seals seven trumpets and seven vials of wrath I didn't pick that so you know some people get bent out of shape over some silly things here we go 16 Revelation 16 verse 1 and I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels go your ways and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth and the first went and poured out his vial upon the earth and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast and upon them which worshipped his image and the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea and it became his blood of a dead man and every living soul died in the sea and the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters and they became his blood now remember these judgments happened in Egypt this judgment of the blood the water's being turned to blood happened in Egypt the fish in the river die yet the Israelites survived till it was over let's keep going verse 5 and I heard the angel of the water say thou art righteous O Lord which art and was to shout shall be because thou has judged us for they have shed the blood of saints and of prophets and thou has given them blood to drink for they are worthy and I heard another out of the altar say even so Lord God Almighty true and righteous are thy judgments and the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the Sun and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire now notice the Sun here is still there it's not gone dark right so this is not the second coming this is just a judgment where God moves upon the Sun specifically to scorch those who blaspheme that wouldn't be Christians I would hope you're a Christian blaspheming we've had a problem and men were scorched with the great heat and blaspheme the name of God which has power over these plagues and

  22. they repented not to give him glory and the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seed of the beast and his kingdom was full of darkness and they gnawed their tongues for pain and blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their swords and repented not of their deeds now they didn't repent of their deeds I think for maybe a couple of reasons here number one they'd already taken the mark of the beast and worshiped his image so there's no hope at that point once you do that it's over there's no hope for forgiveness also you probably cross the line and it does something to you spiritually and maybe even physically to the point where you cannot you were given over to a reprobate mind you you you don't you don't want to repent no matter what happens don't go that far and then he gets to the sixth angel so here we're at the sixth vial of wrath almost at the very end of everything and the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the Great River Euphrates and the water there I was dried up that the way of the kings of the East might be prepared and I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon now to the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet for they are the spirits of devils working miracles which go forth into the kings of the earth and of the whole world to gather them to the battle of the Great Day of God only everybody said great day see people have talked about the day of the Lord as if it's the whole seven years is the day of the Lord that's not true the day of the Lord is a day it's a day it's a battle it's a day of great judgment and so these unclean spirits go out of the mouth of the beast and the false prophet and Satan the dragon and they gather together the whole world to battle to come to battle who are they coming to battle they're gonna come battle Jesus look at verse 15 this is the Lord speaking behold I come as a thief blessed is he that watcheth and keepeth his garments lest he walk naked and they see his shame and he gathered them together into the place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon so here's the sixth vial he's drawing the kingdoms of the earth the kings and the armies of the earth to the Battle of Armageddon the Valley of Megiddo in Israel now here we are the seventh angel everybody say this with me seventh angel seventh vial of wrath let's read what he said verse 17 and the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven from the throne saying it is done now let me start right there what do we see happened at the seventh trumpet he said what the mystery of God's finished we're done time is no more here at the seventh vial of wrath what does he say it is done it's finished do you see how these are the same these things happen at the same time and he says look what he says he says in verse 18 and there were

  23. voices and thunderings and lightnings and there was a great earthquake where do we read that the sixth seal there was a great earthquake right he says there was a great earthquake so mighty an earthquake and so great was it was not since men were upon the earth and then he says verse 19 and the great city was divided into three parts that is Jerusalem and then he says and the cities of the nations fail everybody you know again we read over the cities of the nations fail me right there every single city wicked city across the entire world crumbled that day why you think it's called the great day of God's wrath he is wiping the earth clean of the wicked and everything they built he's going to destroy them all and he says look at this and the great city was divided into three parts and the cities of the nations fell and great Babylon which I believe is Roman Catholic Church the Vatican Rome came in remembrance before God to give under her the cup of the wine of the fiercest of his wrath look at verse 20 and every island fled away and every and the mountains were not found where do we see that before Kevin put up revelation six real quick the sixth seal what do we say go to back to the sixth seal and the heaven departed as a scroll revelation 614 and the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together and every mountain and island were moved out of their places you see sixth seal seventh file of wrath same event same day pastor Dean when do we get out here let's keep reading verse 20 and every island fled away and the mountains were not found and there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven every stone about the weight of a talent and men blasphemed God because of the plague of hell for the plague thereof was exceeding great now let me stop real quick we're almost done listen to me so you see the seventh file of wrath that's the end it is done he says the great city of Rome destroyed all the cities of the nation's fall every island every mountains move that's exactly six the sixth seal that's the same thing happen the seventh trumpet is the same thing the seventh file of wrath now revelation 17 and 18 reveal who the great whore mystery Babylon is we're gonna cover that it is

  24. the Roman Catholic Church and I all this stuff it's Saudi Arabia it's America no it's not we'll deal with that thoroughly in the days ahead but hear me revelation 17 and 18 it's like a parenthetical statement it's just it kind of pauses in the middle of everything gives you two chapters to identify the great whore mystery Babylon but really from verse 6 from Revelation 16 picks up in verse in chapter 19 because what do we see the end of Revelation 16 we see the great whore mystery Babylon being destroyed and then Revelation 19 picks up talking about her being destroyed well look at the end of chapter 18 go to chapter 18 verse 18 he's talking about the judgment of mystery Babylon and he says this and and the people cried when they saw the smoke of her burning saying what's what city is like into this great city and they cast dust upon their heads and cried weeping and saying alas alas that great city where and was made rich all that had ships in the sea and by reason of the coastlines for it was in one hour she is made desolate rejoice over her thou heaven and ye holy apostles and prophets for God hath avenged you on her now I want to say this there are people that talk about the United States being mystery Babylon who killed the prophets and the apostles of the original apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ that he has said I'm I've now avenged the blood of my apostles and prophets Rome it was Rome it was not America America didn't exist it was Rome the city of Rome and he goes on he says verse 20 again rejoice over her thou heaven and you holy apostles and prophets for God hath avenged you on her and a mind the angel took up a stone like a great millstone and cast it into the sea saying thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down and shall be found no more at all and the voice of harpers and musicians and pipers and trumpeters shall be heard no more at all in thee and no craftsmen and whatsoever craft he be shall be found anymore in thee and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all and the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee and the voice of the bridegroom and the bride shall be heard no more at all for thy merchants were the great men of the earth for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived and in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all that were slain upon the earth so he's talking about the judgment of the great whore mystery Babylon and her agents the Jesuits that have had their hands in every government of the world in helping to create Islam and not the

  25. Nazis and the Communists everything we can trace back to Rome but look at chapter 19 verse 1 when is the bride made ready again the timing when do we see the bride getting her white Roman here we go her white clothing Revelation 19 and after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven saying hallelujah salvation and glory and honor and power unto the Lord our God for true and righteous are his judgments for he have judged the great whore that's mystery Babylon the Roman Catholic Church which did corrupt the earth with her fornication that word means idolatry and hath avenge the blood of his servants at her hand and again they said hallelujah and the smoke and her smoke rose up forever and ever and the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshiped God that sat on the throne saying amen hallelujah and the voice came out of the throne saying praise our God all ye his servants and ye that fear him both small and great and I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude here's this multitude again I heard this great multitude as the voice of many waters as the voice of mighty thundering saying hallelujah for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth and why why are they rejoiced look at verse 7 let us be glad and rejoice and give honor to him for the marriage of the lamb is come when does the marriage of the lamb happen after the judgment of the great whore when does the judgment of the great whore happen at the seventh vial of wrath and the seventh trumpet or the last trumpet which is when we are changed in the moment in the twinkling of an eye he says the bride let us be glad and rejoice and give honor to him for the marriage of the lamb has come and his wife hath made herself ready and to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen clean and white for the fine linen is the righteousness of the saints and he saith unto me right blessed are they which are called to the marriage supper of the lamb and he saith unto me these are the true sayings of God now what follows that see see let me let me break it down for you before we read verse 11 let me break it down boom the sun goes dark the moon doesn't give it light the stars fall from the firmament the firmament begins to crack open and move back the firmament I believe parts of it are the hail that comes down and begins to crush and destroy the kings and the wicked of the earth see the Lord Jesus sitting upon his throne and beginning to descend they say hide us from the face and the wrath of the lamb these things began to happen so the seventh the seventh trumpet sounds the mystery of God is

  26. finished in a moment in the twinkling of an eye as as the sixth trumpet or the sixth vial is gathering the armies of the world are gathering to the land of Israel to fight Jesus because they see him they're gathering to fight and they see him he says the seventh trumpet sounds he says time is no more it's finished it's done in a moment the twinkling of an eye we're changed the dead and Christ are rised up we which are alive and remain are called up to meet the Lord in the air it's in the moment in the twinkling of an eye it's not gonna take weeks or years but we are changed we are with the Lord in the air the seventh seal says there's 30 minutes of silence I believe that is when we have in heaven with the Lord we have a moment with him we get our white robes we get our rewards remember he said time is no longer so time is irrelevant at this point we could be in heaven to what us seems like a year it could be five minutes on earth but the next thing you see after the judgment of the great whore and you see the lamb the the marriage of the lamb has come the bride is there she gets her white red hair white clothing we get our rewards the next thing you see and I saw heaven open and a white horse verse 11 and he that set upon him was caught was called faithful and true and in righteousness he doth judge and make war his eyes were as a flame of fire and on his head were many crowns and he had a name written that no man knew but he himself and he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood and his name is called the word of God and the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses clothed in fine linen white and clean and out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword that with it he should smite the nations and he shall rule them with a rod of iron and and and he treaded the winepress of the wrath and the fierceness of in the wrath of Almighty God and he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written King of Kings and Lord of Lords votes that is how the Bible plays it out not pastor Dean that's how the Bible plays there's no pre-tribulation rapture that is a myth that is a doctrine created by men we are here and I'm just want to say a little word for the pre-wrath people out there because

  27. I've got some of them that torment me as well I have the sign by van Kempen I've read the rapture question I have Rosenthal's book I've read all of it okay pre-wrath theory is pre-trib light that's all it is and it's no more biblical than than the pre-trib view because it still tries to break these things up in seven seals seven trumpets seven vials happening one after the other and it's just not the way it works now folks I don't know about you you say well pastor Dean this scares me hopefully if it scares you it scares you not to get you get you right with God right but it doesn't scare me you know why I get excited I'm ready to see what God's gonna do through his people because you know the book of Daniel chapter 11 says that these things are gonna come on the world and he says but the Lord the Lord's people he said will be strong and do exploits Isaiah 60 says darkness is going to come upon the earth and gross darkness the people but the Lord will arise upon his people he said my glory be seen I'm gonna tell you how many of you know that you see a flashlight or a candle better when the lights go out the darker it gets the more evident the light becomes see that's what's gonna happen with the church Jesus prayed folks Jesus prayed the prayer of Jesus y'all want to hear it John 17 here's what he prayed John 1715 Jesus said I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world but that thou shouldest keep them from me now that's the prayer of Jesus and men came up with a doctrine that God's going to come around here and sneaky take us away at the end that's not what Jesus prayed is it I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world but that thou shouldest keep them from evil listen to the voice of Paul what he said here you know as Christians we should want to be here as long as possible in order to win as many people to Jesus as we can why would we want to leave them Paul said this he said I am in a straight betwixt the two having a

  28. desire to depart and to be with Christ which is far better nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you Philippians 1 and 23 and 24 Paul said yeah I would love to go and be with Christ that is far better than this life in this world he said but for me to abide here in the flesh is more needful for you why was he he said it's more needful for me to be here to train and to teach believers and to lead unsaid people to know Jesus that's more important than getting out of here people the next one the next pre-tripper that accuses me of pride I'm gonna say there's nothing more prideful and say I'm getting out of here but you wicked people are gonna have to stay you arrogant person you should want to stay here and be alike to them even if you have to suffer see that is really the key to this we don't want to suffer anything we don't want any difficulty we don't want any persecution we don't want any trouble we want everything to be wonderful and sweet and prosperous and successful and your best life now that's what we want every day of Friday as Joel says all smiles and giggles it's just not the way it is so folks there's no pre tribulation rapture there's no mid tribulation there is no pre wrath somewhere in the fourth or fifth year rapture it's at the last day the last trumpet the end at the second coming not the third coming and you know what I know I know they're gonna try to kill me before then but I hope I get this I hope I get to see it all I hope I'm standing there on the day the final trumpet blows and I'm still alive I hope so not because I don't I don't mind being marty but I hope I get to see it from this perspective because there's never gonna be another day quite like the great day of God Almighty's wrath is coming are you ready that's the question a lot of people think they're ready and I'm gonna end with this there are a lot

  29. of people out there a lot of people that would tell you I believe in Jesus I believe that he died on the cross for my sins I believe that he rose from the dead they go to church or they listen to sermons and videos but they've never been born again I have a little conversation with a 32nd degree mason the other day and we had a long discussion because he had walked away from God and became a mason it got very very high up in the masons but you know as we started talking of course the curses the curses are upon him the demonic forces are just tormenting and vexing from all the oaths and rituals and things he participated in and he knows it and of course no one's talked to him about deliverance until he called me so I talked to him about deliverance but you know I don't assume anything anymore because he's sitting there talking about hey believe in Jesus and all the stuff and I said you know I said before we go any further in this conversation I gotta ask you this I know you tell me you believe in Jesus I know you tell me you believe he he died for your sins on the cross that he rose from the dead you say you believe the Bible you say you would die for Jesus you'd be a martyr that's all commendable but was there ever a day was there ever a moment that you asked Jesus to come in and be Lord of your life to forgive your sins and you really meant business that you were going to give him everything total surrender turn from your sin and become a true disciple and that was so real that was so genuine and sincere that the Holy Spirit came in you and upon you and immediately bore witness that your sins were forgiven that you were born again that you were child of God I said did you ever have a supernatural experience called being born again folks there are a lot of people who are believers of Jesus in their head and they've never ever been born again and folks let me tell you if you haven't been hit by the presence and power and peace and love of God through the Holy Spirit when you accepted Jesus you might have prayed a sinner's prayer but that didn't mean you were born again there's a lot of people that's prayed a sinner's

  30. prayer and I don't have a problem with it if you can say I truly surrendered I truly repented I truly gave my whole life I'm holding nothing back everything's yours Lord and you felt the peace and love of God the as the old hymn used to say the blessed assurance that you know that you know in your knower that you were born again through faith in Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Ghost if you've never had that supernatural experience I don't care how many times you've been to church I don't care how many times you prayed a sinner's prayer I don't care how many times you've been baptized sprinkled or whatever okay how many sermons you've listened how much Bible you studied I don't care if you haven't been born again supernatural encounter with Jesus Holy Spirit bearing full witness that you are a child of God let me tell you folks when when I was born again I couldn't hold back the tears I couldn't hold back the shaking I couldn't hold back the overwhelming encounter with Jesus Christ if you haven't had that I'm gonna tell you you better find it you better seek until you find and the reason I'm gonna say this the reason a lot of people are come forward in a church service or or pray with a TV preacher or whatever the reason a lot of people will do that because they feel guilty over their sin but they don't really mean to surrender their own will their own plans their whole life they don't really mean to give up they want fire insurance but they don't want Jesus to be Lord they want forgiveness but they don't want lordship and you can't be saved until you say Lord I will do whatever you want me to do I give up doing it my own way so many people have never ever truly surrendered their will you go from being your own boss see people wonder how Pasadena you didn't you didn't go to seminary you didn't do this you didn't you didn't do it their way you're right I didn't God wouldn't let me do it that way let me tell you what happened to me I said God I will I will walk away from it all all my plan modeling career movie career doctor playing football sexual immorality the desire to be rich and famous I know it

  31. was all right there my it was all right there I could have had I could have had it every bit of it but you know what I said Lord I said I'm done from this point I remember June June 1987 I said that's it I'm done my life is yours God whatever you have me to do and I want to tell you did he ever come back in and filled me with his Holy Spirit began to do amazing things in my life but I wouldn't be here today teaching preaching or doing any of this if I hadn't made that decision let me tell you a lot of Sunday mornings I want to stay in bed too you know why I don't because God wants me to feed his sheep the reason I get stressed out sometimes it's not because I can't get up and preach a sermon I can get up and preach on anything but I don't want to do that I want to know what God wants me to preach on so I'm stressing and trying to break through my flesh and my tiredness or all kind of difference I'm trying to break through that so I make sure I'm getting what he wants me to talk about that day to that group of people and I can just tell you the devil doesn't like it and I'm gonna say this for all those people out there I don't think I'm anything trust me I struggle with sin I struggle with temptation I struggle with my mind I struggle with all kind of worries and concerns and I struggle there's days my wife will tell you I would just rather just go crawling to under a rock and disappear I know I look I can tell you right now in this flesh in me dwells no good thing nothing nothing everything I have every ability I have to teach or preach everything is is what God has given me and sometimes I don't even want it because the responsibility and the weight of it is almost too much so I just want to say that to people out there I look I'm not perfect I don't get everything right I just try my best I

  32. hope you do the same let's stand folks we are we are nothing without the blood of Jesus washing our sins away we are nothing we have nothing unless truly the Holy Spirit gives it to us and works it through us you can try with all your might and strength to do something for God but if he didn't call you to do it or tell you to do it it's just flesh the key to everything make sure you're born again you're truly born again Jesus is Lord of your life get filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues and start operating the gifts spend time in prayer in the Word of God and learn to hear his voice and discern what the Holy Spirit is leading you to do and then when he tells you to do something and lead you to do something you do it that's Christianity if he tells you to shut your mouth shut your mouth if he tells you to speak speak if he tells you to go over there go over there if he tells you to stay and wait stay and wait and if it's written in the Bible you know and if I hear one more person tell me it doesn't matter when the when the rapture is oh my god I guess it God shouldn't have put it in there in the book no all truth matters trust me it's gonna matter a whole lot in the very near future that's power heavenly father we thank you for today we thank you for your word we thank you God that you are merciful and patient Lord all of us Lord were blinded deceived rebellious doing our own thing living in sin unbelief self-will the Lord you convicted us you broke us you drew us those of us that are saved and born again you you did it and we finally yielded but we have to keep yielding when I pray that people out there that have been watching or listening to this Lord if they've never been born again that they will truly surrender to Jesus as Lord and Savior and it'll be so thorough and complete and real that your Holy Spirit will bear witness and that

  33. they will be born again Lord I pray that I pray that for people more than anything else that they will know that they're saved they will know your presence they will know your voice they will know you and love you and want to do things your way when I pray this in in Jesus name that's all I have I'm gonna end that with that today y'all hugs the next before you leave amen love y'all